2022-05-18 Meeting notes: Cdl

Date

Housekeeping

Discussion items

  • Controlled digital lending (cdl) process and workflows

Minutes

  • this came up especially due to covid and circumstances
  • Digital reps of a physical book
  • cannot check out both
  • what is the best way to model in Inventory 
  • what is the relationship between the digital and the physical item - need to be associated at the same instance (they are the same instance)
  • maybe loaning the physical resource to some kind of dummy account
  • may not correspond to a single digital loan
  • Owen in chat: We have (IMO) still not managed to successfully bridge the Print/Electronic divide in Folio. Inventory has some aspects, as does Orders, and then there's Agreements and eHoldings - and these things are not connected right now
    It seems to me that CDL is another challenge to this Print/Electronic aspects
  • Owen in chat: So I see parallels with the fact that a journal can be owned by a library in both print and electronic forms, and these can be obtained through a single order / acq process
    Andy in chat: Not initially, anyway.
    (Referring to hosting the digital object in FOLIO.)
  • Charlotte: is item status something that can be used
  • system needs to understand that there is a relationship
  • Owen in chat: But currently we have the electronic form of the journal potentially recorded in both Agreements and/or eHoldings and also in Inventory - the different records fulfilling 
    The 'circulation' aspect is obviously different
  • Ian: important to draw the line between CDL and library management system
  • Owen in chat: But I wonder if this is an opportunity for us to step back and consider how we really think resource management should work here
    But maybe that's just too big
  • David in chat: https://controlleddigitallending.org/whitepaper
    White paper on CDL
  • Kristin: would it be a high legal risk if the physical is checked out although the digital rep is also checked out; different institutions have different levels of legal requests
    • needs 2 systems that need to communicate back and forth
  • Laura: the bibliographic representation should be separate from the solution, i.e., it should work whether the digital copy is described separately or on the same instance
  • Owen: there is something workflow related; action permissions could be very powerful here
  • big issue: link between electonic and print; what is the philosophy; CDL might be a good use case to test that against
  • David: +1
  • Charlotte: having a decision diagram might be helpful
  • Ian: it will not be one decision diagram; but diagram could help
  • Charlotte: Also the circulation statistic aspect is good to get a better understanding of
  • Usage stats: get away from sequestered physical items and circulation stats
  • storage platform for cdl will most likely live outside FOLIO; need something to tie to CDL item
  • Andrea agrees in chat
  • Laura in chat: is the way FOLIO interacts with Caiasoft, for example, for remote storage, a useful model? - in the way they talk to each other
  • Andy in chat: I think this is exactly what we've been talking about: FOLIO/Caiasoft are still working with a SINGLE item. We're talking about TWO items where only ONE can be available at a time.
  • Kristin: CDL item will impact the status of the physical item
  • Owen: I was going to ask - is the CDL always the whole resource, or can it be for a portion of the resource? (e.g. a book chapter rhather than the whole book)?
    • it can be both
  • David: CDL is interesting from a consortia level as well; instead of ILL release digital copy
  • some institutions use "remove completely" model
    • Owen: work level resolution service could be powerful; idea was already discussed with entity management group
  • Andrea in chat: Please keep in mind this is not necessarily a one to one relationship.  You could have multiple copies of a printed work which you would only have one digital copy of.  Loans could be for any combination of print and digital up to the number of owned copies.
  • Ian: better connect on volume issue level; wanting to avoid one-to-one relationship
  • Dung-Lan: analogy to coins; each having 2 sides
  • can we use the temporary loan type to use for that switch between the 2 sides of the coin/digital and physical
  • David: need to include the item status
  • Owen: So actually taking the coin analogy - the number of coins equals the number of potential loans, not the number of physical copies
    And each coin could be either a physical loan or an electronic loan?
  • Kristin: only one "side" can be used at the same time
  • Owen: licensing could at some point allow 2 digital loans per physical copy; should not "pain ourselves into a corner" when designig a model
  • Martina S will stay in touch qith CDL group for further steps/communication

Chat


Attendees

Present

Name

Home Organization


Ann-Marie Breaux

EBSCO


Brooks Travis

EBSCO

x

Charlotte Whitt

Index Data

x

Dennis Bridges

EBSCO

xDung-Lan ChenSkidmore College

Gill Osguthorpe

UX/UI Designer - K-Int

x

Heather McMillan Thoele

TAMU

x

Ian Ibbotson

Developer Lead - K-Int

x

Jana Freytag

VZG, Göttingen


Khalilah Gambrell

EBSCO


Kirstin Kemner-Heek  

VZG, Göttingen

x

Kristin Martin

Chicago

x

Laura Daniels

Cornell

x

Lloyd Chittenden

Marmot Library Network

x

Martina Schildt

VZG, Göttingen

x

Martina Tumulla

hbz, Cologne

x

Maura Byrne

Chicago


Mike Gorrell

Index Data

x

Owen Stephens

Product Owner -  Owen Stephens Consulting


Patty Wanninger

EBSCO

xErin WellerMichigan State University
xDavid BottorffChicago
xAndy Horbal
xPeter Murray
xBeth Chenette
xLaszlo Jakusovszky
xAndrea Loigman

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