17:05:26 Von Bob Scheier (Holy Cross) an Alle: My mother told me its safe if you have protections in place. 17:05:37 Von Julie Bickle (LMU) an Alle: +1 17:05:41 Von Thomas Trutt an Alle: LOL 17:05:44 Von David Bottorff - UChicago an Alle: 😀 17:07:11 Von Bob Scheier (Holy Cross) an Alle: What about copying the digital copy. That has to be protected as well. 17:08:23 Von Andrea Loigman an Alle: https://doi.org/10.31228/osf.io/7fdyr 17:10:49 Von Erin Weller an Alle: We use CDL at MSU and check the item out in Sierra. 17:13:54 Von Andy Horbal (He, Him, His) an Alle: The reserves analogy makes sense to me! 17:14:13 Von Erin Weller an Alle: We transfer the item location to MNCDL, a new location, and treat it as Reserve. 17:14:15 Von Andy Horbal (He, Him, His) an Alle: You're taking an item and moving it to a place where the terms under which it can and can't be used are different. 17:14:31 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: Was going to ask about updating location . so that's useful! 17:14:46 Von Travis, Brooks L an Alle: I would argue that treating them as separate at the systems level weakens the legal argument in favor of allowing CDL 17:15:49 Von Bob Scheier (Holy Cross) an Alle: How about just using temporary location to control state 17:18:09 Von Bob Scheier (Holy Cross) an Alle: Transport of a new location in the sky called online 17:18:18 Von Bob Scheier (Holy Cross) an Alle: To new location 17:19:31 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: I was wondering if we need a combination of status and location for different approaches to modelling 17:19:47 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: Wondering if folks have preferences for how we report this usage 17:20:47 Von Laurence an Alle: Don't think the metadata folk at UMass would be happy having the same instance used for both physical and electronic copy. Done some Aleph clean-up work for IRM fixing 'hybrid' records like this. 17:25:04 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: I#m very much more interested in the high level conceptual modelling at this point 17:25:46 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: I've been reaching out to the DIBS/Caltech folks B,T 17:26:14 Von Travis, Brooks L an Alle: There was a great presentation on this last year at a conference I attended that I’ll try to find and share with folks 17:26:33 Von Travis, Brooks L an Alle: That specifically called out the question of whether we need to reproduce the friction 17:27:08 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: I'm very much envisaging a module that lets folks set different policies - so enumerating the policies is more important for me than choosing one process over another 17:28:43 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: Not all ReShare libraries are FOLIO - so this is important 17:30:50 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: An example would be super helpful! TYVM 17:31:26 Von Rebecca Pernell (Stanford) an Alle: Hi all — sorry to be muted. Here is a Stanford item on CDL: 17:31:27 Von Rebecca Pernell (Stanford) an Alle: https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/5533768 17:31:57 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: TY 17:32:10 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: Close to time :) 17:32:50 Von Jana Freytag an Alle: We have some time, since Holly is not here yet :) 17:36:44 Von Jana Freytag an Alle: Holly is here now, so we have to come to an end with the CDL-Topic 17:38:41 Von Mark Canney an Alle: Restricted status is not granular enough to account for the workflow and (re)location of the physical item .. 17:39:27 Von Ian Ibbotson an Alle: Thankyou all so much - that's really helpful 17:39:33 Von Andy Horbal (He, Him, His) an Alle: Hi Jana! Cornell will definitely want to be involved in the sub-group. I'll try to figure out WHO we'll want, but in the meantime you can include me as our contact. 17:39:41 Von Jana Freytag an Alle: 👍 17:40:59 Von David Bottorff - UChicago an Alle: Same for Chicago. Please include me in the CDL subgroup for now 17:41:22 Von Andrea Loigman an Alle: Duke too! 17:42:20 Von Mark Canney an Alle: Lehigh too! Thanks. 17:44:37 Von Jana Freytag an Alle: I set up a page for the RA CDL Sub group and put in all the names that came up here in chat. Please feel free to enter your names here: https://wiki.folio.org/display/RA/RA+-+CDL 17:50:05 Von David Bottorff - UChicago an Alle: and an overdue fine could be charged 17:51:32 Von David Bottorff - UChicago an Alle: There should eventually be a "cancel claim return" option as well, but I don't think that's been developed yet 17:53:07 Von David Bottorff - UChicago an Alle: Patron claims an item that is due in 3 months was returned. Then contacts us a day later saying never mind, I still have it. We would want to cancel the claim return. The workaround in the meantime is to check the item in and loan it again 17:53:26 Von David Bottorff - UChicago an Alle: That's one example of "cancel claim return" would come into play 17:55:11 Von Molly Driscoll an Alle: This makes sense to me and I appreciate you taking the time to walk through it! Not sure if we have a story to document this for docs.folio.org; does anyone know? 17:56:27 Von David Bottorff - UChicago an Alle: I think the big confusion is that once an item is claimed returned, you need to use the ellipsis action menu for the loaned item to "resolve claim" and select either bill as lost or mark missing 17:56:45 Von David Bottorff - UChicago an Alle: or a confusion 😀