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please put an 'x' next to your name in the list below the "Discussion items" if you are attending. Thanks!

Recordings

Recordings of meetings can be found in the Metadata_Management_SIG > Recordings folder on Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7G8S7WF6N20YUM4My1oRTIxSHM

Discussion items

PC update


Minutes

Other updates/announcements
  • Bugfest is next week – designate MM meeting time as Bugfest testing time?
  • Plea from Anton E: please claim tests if you haven't yet (and are planning on testing)
  • Other ways we (SMEs) can help our POs???


Ann-Marie via chat: In happy news, all 3 scenarios for Single record import (new Instance and SRS MARC, updated Instance and new SRS MARC, updated instance and updated SRS MARC) all seem to be working in the pre-Bugfest Kiwi environment

Jenn Colt via chat: Data import people are going to look at test rails in lab today if anyone wants pointers


Optimistic locking

See umbrella feature in JIRA: UXPROD-3058 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Important - record updates get saved. Currently in FOLIO, if two people are editing the same item record, the person who saves first will loose their changes. Another scenario is that two system actions could occur at the same time, or a system and a user action on the same record. System action example: status of an item being checked out changes.

FOLIO is planning on implementing optimistic locking. 

Charlotte via chat: "Right now Optimistic locking is implemented for apps interacting with Inventory. Then next step will be to roll is out for all apps, including Agreements. "...optimistic locking is to be solving SRI and Data Import as well. SRI and Data Import collisions/conflicts as well"

Jenn (via chat): "It’s not really the collision I’m concerned about, it’s passing the messaging through a multi-step process and reporting the result to the user"

With optimistic locking, FOLIO will make the user aware that the record has changed as the user has had it in edit mode and made changes themselves.

The code is present in Kiwi but not "turned on". More testing is needed.

User messaging JIRA 

This will be tested with Inventory first, then other apps are considering. 

Screenshot messaging:


"View latest version" will return them to Instance, Holding, or Item and user will able to see the latest changes made. 

Jenn Colt asked how this will translate to more complex cases like single record import overlays or batch updates. 

Khalilah - We do have to test workflows and see the outcome. This is one of the reasons it will not be released in Kiwi - need to test these complex cases. That is part of the plan so it can be released for Lotus.

Ann-Marie (via chat) - "I think part of the Single Record Import messaging issue is that the UI messaging you see in Inventory was a first iteration, and needs to be worked on in general. Maybe we can use Kiwi Bugfest as a venue for trying to refine those current messages."

Tim Watters (via chat) - ""Close = closes the modal and keeps user on the record in edit mode"  Does that keep your edits alive then?"

Laura suggested a new tab would open. When you click on "View latest button" it could open the latest version in a new tab or window to give the user the chance to copy edits to the record that will be saved.  Desire for temp screen and permanent record to be obvious. 

Tim (via chat) - "We are in a consortial setting and never know when someone else is editing for all kinds of reasons. People blame that *other person* at *that other library* if they lose their work. Not good for relationships."

Jenn - Language is important. Not "old version" - maybe more like, unsaved changes. 

Janet Ewing (via chat) - "Does the system know if/when the Edit screen is opened?  If so, can it alert a user who clicks Edit that someone else has already started editing the same record?"

Suggestion, agreed by Khalilah that the record not open in "edit" but "view" mode to let the user decide what is needed. 

Khalilah will work on a mock-up with suggested changes, come back to MM meeting, get response, then move forward from there.

Next week's meeting will be BugFest testing


Regular Attendees

(alphabetical by first name)

Present?

Name

Organization


Aaron TrehubAuburn

Amelia SuttonU Mass-Amherst
xAmanda ScottMiddle Tennessee State University
xAnn-Marie BreauxEBSCO

Ann KardosUMass Amherst

Annalisa Di Sabato@Cult

Brian ClarkUniversity of Alabama

x

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Christie ThomasChicago

Christin Seegerthbz
xColin Van AlstineSmith (FC)

Damian BiagiWestern New England Univ

Dennis BridgesEBSCO

Dennis ChristmanDuke University

Douglas ChorpitaGoethe Uni Frankfurt

Dracine HodgesDuke University
xDwayne SwigertMissouri State

Felicia PiscitelliTexas A&M
x

Felix Hemme

ZBW
xJackie MagagnoscCornell Law

Jacquie SamplesDuke University
        xJanet EwingMount Holyoke College
xJason KovariCornell

Jeanette KalchikStanford University
xJenn ColtCornell
xJennifer EustisUMass Amherst

Jesse LambertsonUniversity of Chicago
xJessica JaneckiDuke University

Joshua BartonMichigan State

Joshua LambertMissouri State

Kathleen NortonMount Holyoke

Khalilah GambrellEBSCO

Kristin MartinUniversity of Chicago

Kristen WilsonIndex Data
xLaura DanielsCornell
       Laura EvansAmherst College
xLinda TurneyMiddle Tennessee State University

Linh ChangStanford

Lisa FurubottenTexas A&M
xLisa McCollLehigh University

Lisa SjögrenChalmers

Lucas MakMichigan State
xLloyd ChittendenMarmot Library Network
xLynne ForsWellesley
xMagda ZacharskaEBSCO

Mark ArnoldMissouri State

Martina Schildt

VZG

       Meghan BerginU Mass-Amherst

Molly DriscollEBSCO
xNancy BurfordTexas A&M

Nancy Lorimer

Stanford


Natalie SommervilleDuke University
xNatascha OwensChicago

Niels Erik NielsenIndex Data

Patricia RatkovichUniversity of Alabama

Patty WanningerEBSCO


Philip SchreurStanford (PC Liaison)
XRaegan Wiechert

Missouri State University


Rita Albrechthebis-Verbundzentrale

Rita LunnonStanford

Robert (Bob) ScheierHoly Cross
xRyan TamaresStanford
xSara ColglazierMHC/5C

Susan PonischilGrand Valley State Univ

Theodor Tolstoy

EBSCO
xTim WattersLibrary of Michigan

Tiziana Possemato@Cult


Wayne Schneider

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